March 17th, 2009 | By YouDee
BNEsFinest.net’s own U.D. got the chance to ask some questions of New York’s J-Zone and Brissy’s own DJ Sheep on the eve of their tour. Def worth a read.
J-Zone:
You’ve been involved with hip-hop for a fair while, either as a head or in producing your own material. How have you seen the culture and the trends change over the time? (Positive and negative aspects).
From a positive, a lot of people are taking matters into their own hands in terms of not depending on being signed to labels. The southern and west coast dudes always did indie stuff, but I’m from New York
and a lot of artists in New York were lazy and depending on labels. In the mid-90’s a lot of people began to control their own destiny which was good to see. But from a negative, that helped flood the market.
There’s just too much product out and its easy to get lost these days. I also don’t like the fact that a lot of the diversity has begun to fade in rap. I liked when you turned on MTV and got some goofy funny rap,
some gangsta shit, some political shit…you had guys of all different styles co-existing. I don’t see that much these days, and it feels like a lot of cats are planning every move they make and following formulas instead
of just doin whatever they feel. Rap is about breaking rules. If you wanna rap about picking boogers, you shouldn’t be stopped because of fear of being taken as a joke!
You’re managing a cross-over of a different type. What sparked your interest in doing porn soundtracks and this new $leazy Listening style?
That started as an inside joke between me and Al-Shid, a rapper I work with. He would say my beats sounded crazy and he could see them in pornos. I have a strange sound and most of my favorite beats, MC’s will complain that they can’t rap on it. But a lot of them told me they could see the beats in pornos because a lot of my ideas are freaky and twisted. So I started imagining a porno with these crazy beats in them and I did a skit for my A Job Ain’t Nuthin But Work album called “$leazy Listening”. It wound up catching the ear of a friend of mine in the adult films industry, and I got my first job doing music for a porno called Asian Bang. It started as a joke, but I felt challenged doing beats for pornos. I get bored with that traditional boom bap hiphop easily and I was tired of MC’s sayin the beat was too crazy or they couldnt rap to it, so I’m focused on doin instrumental and film stuff. It fits my style more.
You’re affiliated with some of the best heads doing it right now. How’d you get down with Celph Titled?
Me and Celph met in 1999 because he worked at BUDS, who were distributing my first album. About a year later, we bumped into each other at a music industry event and we got on the subject of rare gangsta rap. And before you know it, we’re talking about old obscure gangsta rap CDs for hours and people around us were like ‘how do you guys know about this? you’re New York undergound dudes!’ We became friends and recorded a bunch of songs, some of which never came out. The feedback was good, so we decided to do a whole project and give it a theme and a feel of the old gangsta rap albums we love. We ain’t gangstas at all, but we wanted to capture that old school vibe and humor that was on those albums with our own twist, so that’s how Bo$$ Hog Barbarian$ was born.
How important is it to you to have fun in your music? Would you ever make a completely serious album?
Very. I’m not a battle rapper, I’m not a killer or drug dealer, I’m not an activist, I’m not a politician. I’m a regular dude that goes through the everyday bullshit that anybody else would, so I take my experiences and share them with some humor thrown in. I can laugh at myself (which is important) and at others, and I try not to take myself too serious as a rapper in terms of content. Music is therapy to me. Laughter is a great medicine for hard times, so I go hard at it. But at the same time, humor hurt my career. For one, a lot of people are too cool to laugh these days, so if you’re funny, you’re seen as corny. And also, even though I’m lighthearted as an artist, I take my craft and my production very seriously. I spend a lot of time on my records to make them sound how I want and I take a lot of pride in what I do. And just because I’m funny, people think I’m taking everything as a joke and that’s dead wrong. I think a lot of people overlooked concepts, writing and production that I’ve put down because they take me as a joke, and that became frustrating. Albums like To Love A Hooker and A Job Ain’t Nuthin But Work I felt had some nice concepts and I worked real hard to make them cohesive and they were only seen for the humor. That bothered me.
I recently walked away from recording as a rapper and doing shows here in the US. I want to focus on producing and behind the scenes stuff and maybe without the J-Zone character being in the forefront,
people will take me a little more serious in terms of musicianship. I don’t think I’d ever make a completely serious album because humor is in me, but you never know!
You state that you’re a business man. Do work and business ethic go hand in hand in the industry?
Yes and no. I’m serious about my business and I realize that music is a business. But I don’t allow the business to determine how I make music. Like I said, humor and bugged out beats are not big money makers unless you get lucky. I knew when I made some adjustments to my sound after my third album, there could be a loss in sales and in fans. And there was. But I’m an artist first, so I took that risk. But on the other hand I’m very professional in my business dealings with people. If I have a session, I’m not gonna show up 8 hours late even though that’s common in the industry. I don’t fuck around with peoples time and money. I’m serious about being a professional.
I read an old interview with you saying that Australia was one of your favourite places to perform. What do you like about the Aussie scene?
I realize that they don’t see American artists perform as often as the US does, or even Europe. So when they come to a show, they appreciate the show. In most of the US, people just stand there wanting to battle you with their demo and mix cd’s in their hand. Nobody is hyped and having fun. Overseas, they know you may never be back or it may be a long time until they see you again, so they make you feel welcome and I always appreciated that. Plus, Aussies are rowdy as a muthafucka! I love that! I love to see them mosh pits in that bitch! Just don’t start no fights, haha.
How did you get down with Brissy’s own DJ Sheep?
I met him in Sydney when I was there in 2000, and we both got kicked off the radio show for playin Geto Boys songs. He DJed for me in Brisbane too. That’s my dawg right there!
What do you have in heavy rotation at the moment?
Guy: “You Can Call Me Crazy”
Brass Construction: Brass Construction (LP)
4 Deep: “Rollin 4 Deep”
Brokin English Klik: “Kaos Ta Bass”
Devin The Dude: Waitin To Inhale (LP)
J-Zone catalog (somebody asked me for my favorite 3 J-Zone albums so I had to hear them all again).
Suga Free: “Pure Pimp Fene”
Da Lench Mob: “All On My Nut Sac”
Funk Inc.: “Message From The Meters”
For those who haven’t got to catch you live, what can be expected from a J-Zone show?
If customs doesn’t trip on me, expect to see some nice animal fur. PETA might protest outside the venue.
Anything else you’d like to add?
I hope they show some good movies on the plane. That’s a long ass trip.
DJ Sheep:
You’ve been involved with hip-hop for a fair while, either as a head
or in producing your own material. How have you seen the culture and
the trends change over the time? (Positive and negative aspects).
Shit’s always gunna change, it’s inevitable, you don’t see
mutherfuckers walking around with those big ass Motorola cell phones
in a bag anymore right? It’s more a question of how you adapt, there
are ways of adapting to your environment without affecting your
original steelo or whatever. There’s always corny trends, and some
cool ones too. It’s boils down to how you adapt and take a twist on
what’s happening in the world and fuck with it. It’s not 1994 and Nas
isn’t gunna make another “Illmatic” you know?
You’re one of the few heads I know personally that admits to liking
both underground and more mainstream rap tracks. Who are some of your
faves from both scenes and how important is it to you to have a
balance?
Oh man, I listen to a lot of shit that might surprise people. I don’t
like *ALL* mainstream rap songs whatsoever, but the ratio of good and
bad songs in mainstream rap and underground rap is about the same, if
not more… I tell people I listen to Devin the Dude in Brisbane and
they are like “fuck that jiggy shit”… COME ON! Yeah, I listen to The
Game, who cares you know? It’s important just to be yourself and like
what you like, I listen to all genres of music, if it’s dope, it’s
dope… I been listening to the Gap Band and a lot of mellow 80s soul
joints lately… You don’t need a balance but you have to figure out
what YOU like, that’s the problem with everything, be it rapping and
producing and even diggin’ for samples and beats, people just follow
what’s hot right now and don’t have a mind of their own to figure it
out. All that peer pressure shit is wack, I know people that have a
gang of dope hip-hop records and listen to Green Day in their car to
work, then turn around and make the most amazing beats sampling some
obscure folk records from Europe!
You’re about to go jetsetting again after a short stint at home. What
have you got coming up on your agenda?
Well, I got this J-Zone tour of course… then I’m gunna head out to
Bangkok and Paris for some record shopping, then I’m going to relocate
to Scotland for a year and go for dolo. No firm plans yet, but some
shit seems to be shaping up with the music tip. It’s gunna be very
different to Japan and Taiwan where I’ve spent the last 3 years
basically…
How’d you get down with J-Zone?
I was chillin’ with my mate who did a radio show in Sydney and I had
my crates there to play some tracks. Zone saw the Geto Boys “We Can’t
Be Stopped” LP in my record bag and we chopped it up from there, I
guess we realized we both liked the gangsta rap and he asked me to DJ
for him in Brisbane. I think we got kicked off the radio for playing
Geto Boys because they were on some flower power incense burning
steeze. I remember Zone told me he was looking for Low Profile’s album
and I had a spare so I blessed him with a copy. We definitely kept in
touch and made some plans to work together, but due to one thing or
another it always fell through, it’s been a long time coming this
tour, we’ve tried with different promoters and it’s finally happening
thanks to Green & Gold.
You’re known for being a crazy crate digger aside from DJing. What’s
the craziest find you’ve ever had in one of your searches?
Man… actually, one of the craziest finds was recently, like 2 or 3
months ago. I was in Taiwan in a junk store and I found this record
called “Roy Porter - Inner Feelings”. Shit is a mad small pressing
jazz/soul/funk joint from a Los Angeles based drummer and it was 2
bucks. That shits usually like a $500+ record. I was happy as shit
when I found that… not because it was a rare record, but cuz I heard
it on my man Soulman’s CD a while ago and it was just sitting in the
front of the crate in the fuckin’ weirdest shop in Taiwan, just junk
everywhere in that store… but, I think the craziest shit for me and
my business with diggin’ is hooking up established local and overseas
producers with samples and then getting to hear the end product. I
caught some drums in a DJ Shadow track, which was off a private press
record from Stones Corner in Brisbane, I hooked him with that in 2001
or whatever… then he dropped the whole break on his recent world
tour, just trips me out to hear it in the mix you know?
How important is it to you to have fun when you’re doing your thing
and not take yourself too seriously?
It’s probably one of the most important things to maintain longevity
in the game. Not just hip-hop, but life. You have to be able to laugh
at the ridiculousness of shit sometimes and also be able to have a
laugh at your own expense. I like to do my thing, and have fun.
Actually, that’s probably the most appealing thing about J-Zone’s
music to me, is the fact that some, if not most, of his music, is to
be taken a little tongue in cheek. If you don’t like the “Every Hog
Has It’s Day” album, you’re probably the same dude calling Devin the
Dude jiggy, smell me? If you can have a laugh, you will definitely
understand that album, it’s in HIGH ROTATION right now!
How does Brissy and Australia stand up against some of the other
places you’ve performed at?
It’s different you know. Brisbane and Australia have a unique scene
and somewhere like Vietnam or Taiwan have a different scene. Not one
is better than the other, but I was playing to a lot more people
(sometimes up to 5,000) a night at Ministry of Sound in Taiwan, so
that was like something I’d never experienced before. Totally
different. I like making people dance and have fun and bug out… but
Australia is always home, and people are always mad chill and more
into what they like out here! It feels great to be home!
What do you have in heavy rotation at the moment?
Humongous amounts of gangsta rap, Taiwanese pop records and tons of
Japanese soundtracks, rock and jazz from my last trip… let me see
what’s near the turntables right now though…
Too Much Trouble - If You Ain’t Suckin’ EP (Hot Club Wax)
Don Friedman - A Hope For Tomorrow
Miles Davis - Dark Magus
JJ Band - Self-Titled
Ultramagnetic MCs - Critical Beatdown
Dr Tree - Self-Titled
Main Source - Breaking Atoms
Comptons Most Wanted - Music To Driveby
Curtis Mayfield - Superfly
For those that haven’t got to catch you live, what can be expected
from a DJ Sheep set?
Anything goes you know. I feed off the crowd, the more they are up for
a certain thing or sound, I’m gunna run with it and go… Expect
obscure slept on shit and classics, etc. I’m using Serato right now,
so the possibilities at every show are endless. We got a ton of really
crazy songs to play in the gangsta rap set, I’m gunna knock out the
classics for sure tho… Geto Boys, NWA, etc.
Anything else you’d like to add?
Peace to anyone and everyone who has helped me on this journey. Props
to my crew The Jediz and peace to everyone who copped wax from me.
Major props to Green & Gold Records for having the balls and the word
to follow through on this tour. And make sure you don’t miss these
shows people!! And bring extra $crilla because I heard J-Zone has some
cool and exclusive merchandise for sale!